Topic started by Madhan (@ ci154365-a.athen1.ga.home.com) on Fri Aug 25 01:11:55 .
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I have some doubts regarding Tamil grammar
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- From: Chandra (@ bluerock1.bluerockave.com)
on: Fri Aug 25 11:06:08 EDT 2000
Please try to use Tamil fonts.
Given the crtical juncture that Tamil heritage is in as we enter the 3rd millenium, there is not much point poring through tolkAppiyam's phonology when Tamil is in danger of survival. It is imperative that we think, speak and finally *write* in Tamil and write in on the computer.
We have to make Tamil the sure thriver in 3000 CE.
Also you will better appreciate Tamil phonology when you do so.
nanRi
Chandra
- From: Madhan (@ laural.cs.uga.edu)
on: Fri Aug 25 11:32:20 EDT 2000
Ƒ,
,
ֺ ̑ ...
ϙ ള ..
....
,
̑Ϫ Í
- From: Vanchinathan (@ 202.86.152.220)
on: Fri Aug 25 19:56:29 EDT 2000
Ȣָ:
측è "" !
â ӾĢ "" ھ¢ "" 측. â ھ¢ '" ڸ ب ( ̨š) Ģ
"", "" š¡ Ģ .
ھ¢ , ̨ .
š "" Ȣ и ھ¢ Ģ Ȣָ.
ý: "", "", "Ţ". "", "", ""
ɡ:
"", " (cut)", "" Ȣ Ȣָ
Ȧġ Ȣ ġ á ŢǢ.
Here is my pet theory: When we read or speak we make a brief pause
after every word. If the word terminates in the vowel sound "u" we are forced to make a pause with rounded lips --- needed to utter a normal 'u'.
And this feat of being frozen with rounded lips requires, more physical efforts.
Hence this tendency of our lazy ancestors (scientists would glorify it as principle of least energy) to trail off with half-pronounced 'u'. (that is the meaning of "kuRRiyalukaram")
And our ancient grammarians found this delicate difference as warranting to be counted as a separate "letter"
ȢĢ Ƣ ո:
ţ ţ ۨ š Ѩ Ţ. Ţġ "¡ը?" Ţ ¡ ġĢ ϸȣ.
"š ¡ը?" .
Ȣָ , ¡ и ҽ Ţ
"š¡ը" ȡĢ. ''¢ "' Ģ
ţ측 âը¨ Ȣ 츢ȣ Ģ.
Ţо ţ.
- From: Madhan (@ ci154365-a.athen1.ga.home.com)
on: Fri Aug 25 20:39:32 EDT 2000
ב
.̑.
- From: Madhan (@ ci154365-a.athen1.ga.home.com)
on: Sun Aug 27 11:14:06 EDT 2000
?
ݑ ץƑ?
- From: Madhan (@ ci154365-a.athen1.ga.home.com)
on: Mon Aug 28 23:43:19 EDT 2000
can someone enlighten me about the above question
- From: Vanchinathan (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Tue Aug 29 06:13:27 EDT 2000
"Meenatchi" is actually Meenakshi
"aakshi" means eye (samskritham)
So it refers to (a person with) fish-like eyes.
Meenalochana is another name with identical meaning. (lochanam = eye)
About the origin of the word meen (fish) I don't know.
But it is definitely found in ancient Thamizh texts of Sangam period.
I remember Chandra quoting from paripaadal about a day when a particular mIn appears in sky ....
- From: Madhan (@ laural.cs.uga.edu)
on: Tue Aug 29 10:02:37 EDT 2000
= ?
.....
ґ װ э, ള ̑
"" ഀ ̑إ ര ϱ.
ϙ "" ⢗ґ ? ץƑ...?
.̑.
- From: .ç/CHandra (@ rr-165-122-161.atl.mediaone.net)
on: Tue Aug 29 12:01:46 EDT 2000
:
.
Ƣ Ƣġ áɾ .
>
.
Ţ () ţ;
; ( ξ Ǣ).
š Ũ â.
۾/Ǣھ Ǣ ¢츧.
ɢ š ȡ Ǣ, Ȧ .
"Ţ šϾ "
[ո ]
"Ǣ Ȣ¡Ǣ " .
Ծ š Ǣž š θ. š .
¢ɢ Ȧ ¡.
vAL
otl vAL vAL 01 1. lustre, light, splendour; 2. brightness; 3. fame; 4. sharpness, fineness; 5. killing; 6. cruelty; 7. sword, scimitar; 8. saw;
9. plough; 10. ploughshare; 11. scissors
š ȡ , , .
Ƣ š .
Ч.
- From: Madhan (@ ci154365-a.athen1.ga.home.com)
on: Tue Aug 29 14:45:53 EDT 2000
Ȣ á....
- From: .ç/Chandra (@ rr-165-122-161.atl.mediaone.net)
on: Tue Aug 29 14:59:20 EDT 2000
ڸ Ţ.
ɢ.
DEDR- ѨƦ 4885 = .
ż/ Ţ Ƣ Ȣ .
- From: Sujata (@ 24.69.170.174.on.wave.home.com)
on: Sat Sep 2 08:38:29 EDT 2000
What is the meaning of the word AvaNangal? This word is used in some connection with Olai chuvadi.
- From: Vanchinathan (@ 202.56.193.153)
on: Sat Sep 2 21:28:31 EDT 2000
Sujata:
AvaNangaL = documents (could be records of significance, could be form archives, could be something mundane supportive of a job aplication etc)
- From: Sujata (@ 24.69.170.174.on.wave.home.com)
on: Mon Sep 4 00:07:41 EDT 2000
Vanchinathan,
Thank you. When they say AvaNangal were better preserved than olaichuvadis, then does it mean these AvaNangal were preserved better or were they written on some other media? I read that AvaNangal from the 12th century have been found.
- From: Madhan (@ ci154365-a.athen1.ga.home.com)
on: Mon Sep 4 00:40:53 EDT 2000
Ž,
ɢ Ģ.
Ģ ȡ żƢ¢ Ţ
¡?
ɢ Ģ ý ?
.á.
- From: Madhan (@ ci154365-a.athen1.ga.home.com)
on: Tue Sep 5 00:13:23 EDT 2000
can somebody answer my question
- From: .ç/Chandra (@ rr-165-122-161.atl.mediaone.net)
on: Tue Sep 5 02:56:51 EDT 2000
Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon
http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/indologie/tamil/mwd_search.html
Entry
liGga
Meaning
n. (once m. in Nr2isUp. ; ifc. f. %{A} , %{I} only in %{viSNu-liGgI} ; prob. fr. %{lag} ; cf. %{lakSa} , %{lakSaNa}) a mark , spot , sign , token ,
badge , emblem , characteristic (ifc. = %{tal-liGga} , `" having anything for a mark or sign "') Up. MBh. &c. ; any assumed or false badge or mark ,
guise , disguise MBh. Ka1v. &c. ; a proof , evidence Kan2. Ka1tyS3r. Sarvad. ; a sign of guilt , corpus delicti Ya1jn5. Sch. ; the sign of gender or sex
, organ of generation Mn. Hariv. Pur. &c. ; the male organ or Phallus (esp. that of S3iva worshipped in the form of a stone or marble column which
generally rises out of a %{yoni} , q.v. , and is set up in temples dedicated to S3iva ; formerly 12 principal S3iva-lin3gas existed , of which the best
known are Soma-na1tha in Gnjara1t , Maha1-ka1la at Ujjayini1 , Vis3ve7s3vara at Benares &c. ; but the number of Lin3gas in India is estimated at
30 millions IW. 322 n. RTL. 78 , 1 ; 90) MBh. R. &c. ; gender (in gram. ; cf. %{puM-l-}) , Prst. Pa1n2. ; the image of a god , an idol VarBr2S. ; (in
logic) = %{vyApya} , the invariable mark which proves the existence of anything in an object (as in the proposition `" there is fire because there is
smoke "' , smoke is the %{liGga} ; cf. IW. 62) ; inference , conclusion , reason (cf. %{kAvya-l-}) ; = %{lingazarIra} (in Vedanta) ; anything having
an origin and therefore liable to be destroyed again Kap. ; = %{AkAza} Ka1ran2d2. ; (in Sa1m2khya) = %{prakRti} or %{pradhAna} , `" the
eternal procreative germ "' L. [902,1] ; = %{vyakta} L. ; cf. RTL. 30 ; = %{prAtipadika} , the crude base or uninflected stem of a noun (shortened
into %{li}) Vop. Sch. ; (in rhet.) an indication (word that serves to fix the meaning of another word ; e.g. in the passage %{kupito@makara-dhvajaH} the word %{kupita} restricts the meaning of %{makara-dhvaja} to `" Ka1ma "') = %{linga-purANa} BhP. ; the order of the religious student W. ; a
symptom , mark of disease W.
- From: .ç/Chandra (@ rr-165-122-161.atl.mediaone.net)
on: Tue Sep 5 11:56:23 EDT 2000
:
żƢ Ģ츽 //Ģ Ȣ Ģ .
Ģ, ãĢ, Ģ .
- From: Madhan (@ laural.cs.uga.edu)
on: Tue Sep 5 14:07:59 EDT 2000
Ģ
Ģ ¢ Ũ ž
쨸 ""
Ģ ?
.á.
- From: kannan (@ cache-blr.ernet.in)
on: Wed Sep 6 13:12:14 EDT 2000
There is another version for the shape of shiva lingam. Shiva is also known by the name suyambu. i.e. Someone who evolved by himself. and anything that evolves by itself (for eg. from the ground) has the shape of lingam.
- From: ġ¡ ... (@ fw.baan.nl)
on: Fri Sep 8 09:19:13 EDT 2000
' ﺢ ' ( 212)
ﺢ ? Ǣ š ¡¢ Ţ , Ũ ̧ 츢. Ȣ ɡ . Ȣ
ġ¡ ...
- From: pauline (@ vocicorp.s5-0-1-15-0.ar1.sfo1.gblx.net)
on: Fri Sep 8 10:53:16 EDT 2000
sorry to deviate,
I need the shops in bay area where you can get tamil novels. If to get from India (publishers) anybody does this service here ?
- From: Hari Krishnan (@ bay-72.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Sep 8 12:53:50 EDT 2000
ġ¡: ﺢ ﺢ . â ҸǢ ﺢ.
츢â ƢĢ
âĢ Ƣ¢ɢ
¢ š.
á½. . ᎠŨ á â . (á .)
ȡ ɦ â¡. .
ø á á
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(սâ â ¢ Ţ - )
̓: Ž . â . ʨ Ǣ . ɡâ Ũ ʨ , ¢ Ž ġ ¢ . â á. (𦸡 á?)
á: þ â ġ Ģ Ţ ٨. ;-)
(â Ũ . ¡ɡ . 쨸ġ Ţ â 쨸ġ ָȣǔ ȡɡ . â . ¢ħ â¾ 쨸 Ţ ¡ Ţ?)
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